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5 most important electric guitars in rock
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Oct 22, 2008 11:12 p.m. TAG4:
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Oct 22, 2008 11:12 p.m. wenzel:
Crowbone, we're on the same page, but I chose the country gent because George played one on Ed Sullivan and it was a rock Icon for a long time after that, still is...
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Oct 23, 2008 5:16 a.m. Ratrod:
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Telecaster
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Les Paul
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Stratocaster
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SG
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Oct 23, 2008 5:50 a.m. tidalwave_sideburns:
Definately Strats, Tele's and LP's. If you only look at how many low budget manufacturers have copied these builds.
If you ask people to draw an electric guitar, all of them would draw one of these 3 shapes.
To add 2 more, ofcourse Gretsch 6120, and then...hmmm. Couldn't the question just be, name 4 instead of 5, :D ?
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Oct 23, 2008 6:22 a.m. RodN:
Depending on your interpretation of the question...
I'm thinkin' the following as the most important..
Blackie, Lucille, Num.1 and/or Lenny, Rocky, and the un-named BBQ'ed Strat of Hendrix/Zappa.
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Oct 23, 2008 6:46 a.m. crowbone:
Crowbone, we're on the same page, but I chose the country gent because George played one on Ed Sullivan and it was a rock Icon for a long time after that, still is...
Ahh.... good point Chris...but.Eddie & Chet both made the 6120 a Rock guitar before George. That's why I include that, or it would be the Country Gent.
Good choices anyway.
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Oct 23, 2008 6:53 a.m. Bernw:
This thread just demonstrates why the "Story of the Guitar" documentary failed somewhat!
And I agree with Walter Broes asking why journalists ask such crap questions!
And the answers would also depend on music genre and timescales. If we were talking, say, 1957 to 1967 then I would proffer (in no particular order because I'm at lunch and haven't time to pontificate):
Gibson 335
Gretsch 6120
Telecaster
Stratocaster
and possibly Scotty's or Bill Haley's Gibsons.
If we took 1968 to 1978 the list would be different - and so on.
If a European journalist asked me I would tell him:
Rosetti Solid 7
Hofner V2
Futurama
Watkins Rapier
Hofner Colorado
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Oct 23, 2008 7:49 a.m. GentlBen:
Nobody mentioned Harmony, Kay, Stella, without which many of us would have ever learned to play thus eliminating Strat, LP, etc.!
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Oct 23, 2008 7:55 a.m. Tafarel:
I think he's (the journalist) trying to educate himself and his readers, somewhat. Whenever he covers one of our gigs he's always asking which guitars we're playing. Thing is, he's got lots of experience, but his point of view is that the music comes first and the instrument is just the means to that end. He says that he sees the same guitars being played by all the bands that play here, with the odd Harmony or European guitar now and again.
These lists are just opinion of course, and most everybody's is different in some aspect (and also the same), but it has been thought provoking for me to read all the different takes, and honestly, gives me a different perspective on his question. I believe he is interviewing 5 or 6 different guitarists here and mine will be the 'old guy's perspective'.
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Oct 23, 2008 9:35 a.m. audiodrome:
Here's my list of SOME of the most influential guitars in rock:
Eric Clapton's first Gibson Les Paul
George Harrison's Rickenbacker 360/12 and Gretsch Country Gentleman
Eddie Van Halen's Custom Kramer
Buddy Holly's Fender Stratocaster
Stevie Ray Vaughn's Fender Stratocaster
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Oct 23, 2008 9:45 a.m. Beatles6120:
Anything Korean.
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Oct 23, 2008 10:04 a.m. bobbyrivera:
yetto said: In Rock "History?"
Bill Haley's guitar.
Did you mean Danny Cedrone (he was with the Saddlemen/Comets till '54, and Franny Beecher ('54 to present)?
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Oct 23, 2008 3:39 p.m. Jimbodiddley:
I assume, then, that the journo means not individual guitars, but models of guitar.
I think if you look at the big models - Strats, LPs, Teles, especially - the things that made them "rock and roll" guitars, as opposed to jazz, country, etc (though they can certainly be used for that) include: versatility, affordability (at least in the beginning), durability and availability.
If you think of rock and roll at its most vital (in its various stages (early, 60s, country rock, punk, "alternative", punk II, etc) it's a youth culture, a mass movement - so its instruments need to be affordable. The average kid starting a band, getting that itch, is not going to plunk down for a vintage axe or a fancy archtop/hollowbody. It's the mass-produced solidbody planks that satisfy the above criteria.
It's Buddy Holly and his Strat, It's Joe Strummer with his Tele. It's any number of punks grabbing an LP Jr with a single P90 (something that will get gobbed on, and it won't matter). Of course, at various times, different models were in or out of favour, or more or less "valued." People in the late 60s were able to get a 56 Goldtop LP on the cheap (from what I understand) because the new HB model had just been reintroduced (thanks to Clapton and Green et al.) Now you'd need to sell a kidney, hoodwink an unsuspecting seller, or convince your ailing axe-wielding uncle to spend more time by the open window. But most nascent noodlers in any era can find a serviceable Strat, Tele or LP that they can afford.
Other models might give certain kinds of sounds that rock, and are preferred by particular practitioners, but the Strats, Teles and LPs (in their various incarnations) are the standard-issue weapons of the rock and roll army.
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Oct 23, 2008 3:50 p.m. guitarcapo:
Strat Telecaster Les Paul SG ES335
That's pretty much it. Forget about 12 string electrics, or guitars like the LOG. These are the guitars that made rock and roll happen.
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Oct 23, 2008 5:28 p.m. Chonny:
I think we've overlooked the most important guitar.
The Guitar Hero guitar.
The guitar that changed music as we know it, forever.
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Oct 23, 2008 10:36 p.m. crowbone:
Chonny:
I think we've overlooked the most important guitar.
The Guitar Hero guitar.
The guitar that changed music as we know it, forever.
That, and this one, of course:
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Oct 23, 2008 10:54 p.m. wenzel:
I can't believe nobody mentioned Hamer or Paul Reed Smith???
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Oct 23, 2008 11:08 p.m. bobbyrivera:
When I think of rock, I think of this one: I wonder if part of the "case candy" included a sock to stuff your pants with: <a href="
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Oct 23, 2008 11:53 p.m. Chonny:
That's monumental.
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Oct 24, 2008 1:42 a.m. bluesman:
you cant leave out the charvel san dimas. seymour duncan JB in the bridge,59 in the neck. floyd rose,ect. this combo was and is used on some of the greatest rock riffs in history. EVH to beck,oh yeah.
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Oct 24, 2008 2:04 a.m. DangerousMan:
Ah it's just gettin' silly now. You people have stopped taking this thread seriously. I'm sickened, terrified, and intrigued.
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Oct 24, 2008 2:58 a.m. bobbyrivera:
DangerousMan said: Ah It's just gettin' sillt now.
No sillier than the concept and follow through on some of these lists from magazines, websites etc..
Given the popularity of the Hank Williams Jr. Monday Night Football song, the following could be a candidate for most important Rock guitar- "Blue 32!, Red 57!, Hut, Hut.......SUCK! " <a href="
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Oct 24, 2008 3:16 a.m. jetbunny:
Les Paul, Stratocaster, Telecaster, ES-335 and Ibanez RG series.
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Oct 24, 2008 12:54 p.m. dubkitty:
I can't do five, but other than the big-box archtops--which i can't help but think of as more Gibson than Gretsch viz Haley and Scotty Moore--i can break it down to six: Telecaster, Stratocaster, Les Paul (carved top), SG/LP Special/LP Junior (slab top), ES-33x/Epiphone Casino/Riviera, Rickenbacker 330/360. almost every subsequent guitar design is derivative of one or more of these six, as can be seen in a casual look at any mid-level manufacturers' web site.
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Oct 24, 2008 1:14 p.m. Proteus:
I'm with them fellers what say five's not enough.
dub's got a good list, but since it breaks five anyway, I think it should be expanded to include Gretsch Gent/Tennessean per the 60s craze, as well as some representative of the SuperStrat trend of the 80s-90s – and then maybe Gretsch hollowbodies, ironically for their role in the rockabilly and glam/new wave movements of the late 70s and 80s.
