Hi guys!
Ive come across this add looking through the local second hand listing.
The guy is asking for 1,000 euros ($1,500) for a ´61 Gibson Les Paul SG / Custom .
Im feelling a GAS attack
http://www.segundamano.es/vi/11880763.htm?ca=11_s
Acording to SG forum the prices oscilate between $2,000 and 8,000.
http://www.everythingsg.com/sales_tracking.htm
Any advice
If that really is a '61 with original finish, parts, and no repairs, for a thousand Euros - RUN OUT AND BUY IT. I think the estimates you've posted are on the very low side, you could get as much for the pickups alone.
Have you ever played/held an SG? They're VERY heavy. That's also when Gibson didn't hve a contract with Les Paul so they were called SG's and not Les Pauls. If you like the Les Paul sound/feel/weight, you'd probably be OK with an SG (I forget what "SG" actually stands for??). $1500 would probabaly be an OK price--but not $8000! All this is just my opinion.
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Tag - I'm not getting the impression you've actually held or played an SG (which stands for "solid guitar" btw). They're pretty light actually, as solidbodies go.
And a '61 still has the Les Paul name on it - they were called Les Paul Customs at that time. And $1500 would be downright cheap for even just one pickup out of a '61.
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SG stands for solid guitar. They stopped using the Les Paul name on SGs after a while because Les Paul didn't like the design.
I never played a heavy SG. They can be NECK heavy, but that's another story, and it can usually be taken care of with a good strap that doesn't slip.
I tried a friends '61 SG (not a custom) and it was comfortable to wear and play.
Great guitars if you ask me. On the price I agree with Walter. If original, it's dirt cheap
[Edit: come to think of it, the vintage one I tried was a '62 Les Paul, as it had a pearl inlaid ebony tailpiece]
I'm with Walter-- it sounds like a good deal to me. My local store just sold one in much less than mint condition for $3600 Canadian, and I thought that was a good price. So... $1500 is a bargain, IMO.
Hi, Im familiar with SG´s.I owned an early 70s special that i traded for my jet 6129 (that was another good deal
)
It was a very light guitar with a thin neck,but this 61 seems to me like a different animal. I´ll keep you posted as soon as the dealer comes back to me.
gracias
Sjolte said:
They stopped using the Les Paul name on SGs after a while because Les Paul didn't like the design.
Although it's true that Les didn't care for the SG design (he was photographed playing them), the real reason they stopped calling them "Les Paul" is that his endorsement deal with Gibson expired. At the time he was going through a divorce from his wife and longtime musical partner, Mary Ford, so he didn't renew the endorsement deal as it would have just made one more thing for the lawyers to fight about.
I think French author Jean-Paul Sartre summed up marriage about right when someone asked him what was the right age to get married. Sartre's wise reply: "If you are young, not yet. If you are older, not at all."
More news..
The owner seems to be based now in Milan (Italy)
and not locally as he claimed.
He says he will shipped the guitar via Air Cargo Express paying all the fees himself. So I´ll "only" have to cover the price of the guitar (1,000euros) and will have 3 days to inspect it with money back guaranteed if not satisfied
It seems fair and reliable busines.
Should I go for it????
thanks in advance.
If it's legit I'd go for it. "Legit" being the key factor.
I can't read the website, but it sure sounds like a scam to me.
Hi!. Well,the website looks good to me....
http://www.air-cargoexpress.co.cc/
but the fact that ive seen one exactly the same listed at $20,000 makes me feel a bit..uncomfortable:
http://www.guitars.com/catalog/flat.htm#e
"EC1943 Gibson Les Paul/SG Custom, 1961, EXC, professionally refretted, back of body and neck oversprayed, formerly owned and played by Danny Gatton, also played by Buddy Guy, Gibson Protector HC, REDUCED from $27,500......$20000"
the indecision!!
scam city.
Tell him you need some detailed photos. Also suggest to him that you go to Italy to get it. He will most likely stop answering your emails at that point.
The following is listed at Lark Street Music in Teaneck, NJ, USA. Follow the link to the site, follow to multiple photos of the instrument. Very reputable and knowledgeable dealers.
*GIBSON LES PAUL/SG, 1961, Cherry, sideways tremelo, PAFs, all original, real nice one, compare with other prices and you'll see that this one is priced like it was 2006, exc, original case...........$22,500
Oh - and SGs are very light guitars, if a bit neck-heavy.
What makes this offer really "strange" is the fact that the owner dont have a clue of the value of his guitar or is openly trying to scame me.
(The guy is asking for 1,000 euros ($1,500))
Maybe its a typo and should read 10,000 euros?
Unfortunately,no typo,the guy answered privately to my mail asking for that amount,incluiding delivery cost!!
If it is legit and that big of a steal I'd say it's worth the travel cost to pick it up in person.
I'm with dmanlow,tell him you would like to pick it up in person,see how he reacts.
SCAM ALERT!!!! the devil has his ways..the link he gave to make the transaction is on the fraud list: http://www.air-cargoexpress.co.cc
The real cargo company welcome you to the websitre with this message (http://www.aircargoexpress.co.uk):
IMPORTANT NOTICE
We have no connection with any companies offering items for sale on the Internet. We understand that they state that the purchased items have been placed with Air Cargo Express and they even give a fictitious tracking number.
Please do not get caught by this fraud which is operated by criminals who are offering goods for sale that do not exist.
I wonder how many guitar lovers have fall for this bait.
Keep your eyes open my friends
