I noticed that allot of youguys dislike acoustic guitas. Thats fine. To each their own. Heres my take on it. I like electric guitars. As a matter of fact I build them. The thing about all electric guitars is the fact that solid body guitars are souless SOB's. Their sound is synthetic,man made and un natural . I dont care whose playing one. They're emotionless. Stretching strings isnt emotion. They have no place in blues music what so ever. They work fine with the half baked blues that Cream played(I dig creams music though) Their use in blues is what put it on its downward spiral. If I never heard that crap SRV played again it would still be too soon. I feel that a person isnt much of a guitar player if they dont use an acoustic about as often as an electric. I respect the opinions of those who oppose them. I just dont understand how a guitar player could feel that way.
Hating Acoustics
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Nov 29, 2007 8:48 p.m. Badams:
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Nov 29, 2007 9:32 p.m. mmarconi:
I don't know about all that...I doubt any of the Kings would agree with you. BB, Albert AND Freddie(just to name 3) got a FAIR amount of emotion out of electric guitars...But..to each his own. Mike
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Nov 29, 2007 9:41 p.m. WishinforaFalcon:
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Nov 29, 2007 9:42 p.m. WishinforaFalcon:
Come on Badams, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel!!!
I hear what you are saying. I don't really agree that a solid body is completely souless...well I take that back, every guitar is souless...until a human with a soul picks it up. It is the soul that comes out of that human that matters. That can be done on either instrument.
I do agree that an acoustic does have a certain mojo to it that moves me, and a hollowbody electric moves me more than a solid, but good music with good lyrics always moves me no matter what it's played on. I don't think Dylan or Neil Young have any less soul when they pick up an electric.
I will agree that we would all be much better players if we played acoustic equal time as electric. I probably never will though.
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Nov 29, 2007 10:10 p.m. wenis:
No soul?
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Nov 29, 2007 10:11 p.m. ollkorrect:
that's the crackiest thing i've ever heard, Badams.
what kind of music do you listen to, that is played with instruments not created by humans?
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Nov 29, 2007 10:12 p.m. ollkorrect:
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Nov 29, 2007 10:31 p.m. Gretschadelphia:
Peter Green, in his prime (before the drugs and mental health issues) with the original Fleetwood Mac could send chills up your spine with his Les Paul. There may have been guys who could play faster and flashier, but for pure emotion in his playing, Peter Green was my favorite. His acoustic slide work is also impressive (check out "Showbiz Blues"). He also wrote a few pretty good songs that are considered classics.
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Nov 30, 2007 12:10 a.m. greg:
I hear ya badams.I had to rub my eyes when i read that original post.How can anybody dis an acoustic is beyond me.One thing acoustics do is show everybody who is GOOD and those who are NOT! I am more blown away watching a great acoustic player most of the time with the likes of Doyle Dykes and Tommy Emanuel.Christ you should see Paul Pigat when he does his Acoustic blues evenings here in Vancouver.I absolutely love how there are NO knobs and effects to deal with...Its all you!!!
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Nov 30, 2007 12:38 a.m. Calacas:
Badams... That's really an insult to electric guitar players...why do I need an acoustic to prove or validate anything about my guitar playing??
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Nov 30, 2007 12:59 a.m. 57 Chet :
I'm late to this party, as usual ...
I haven't bothered reading this or the other thread on this subject in depth ... 'cause the whole subject is just ridiculous!
How on earth could anyone not love a guitar in its purist form ... for it's sound or aesthetic appeal ... ?
Real men and women play real guitars !
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Nov 30, 2007 5:33 a.m. Ratrod:
I don't hate the sound of acoustic guitars, I just hate playing them.
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Nov 30, 2007 5:37 a.m. GuitarFarm:
That's a lovely guitar, 57Chet. Awe inspiring. Nothing less.
I got my first guitar at 14. A fairly crappy Yamaha acoustic. I was already playing trumpet in the school band so I could read music and had a bit of an ear. I was driven to learn to play guitar for several reasons. Not the least of which was a nearly fanatical devotion to CSN&Y and to Neil Young in general (early 70's before he went to crap) and the desire to impress females of my age whom I was beginning to notice in a new and entirely different light. There was a fellow in our town who played guitar really well. He was probably in his forties around that time and he would sometimes play in the outdoor bandstand that was situated in the middle of the town. On nice summer evenings, people would gather on the benches and listen to him and shoot the breeze with their neighbors. I approached him one evening after he had performed and told him how much I admired his performance. I stated that I would give anything to be as good as him and asked him if he had any suggestions. He asked me what I was playing and what I wanted to be able to play. At the time, I was really yearning for an electric guitar and I told him so. He said that, if I wanted to really be any good at all, I would have to learn to play acoustic guitar first. I asked him how many years I would need on acoustic before I could get an electric. He replied, "Oh, twenty should just about do it."
Well, I listened to that man. On my 34th birthday, my wife bought me my first electric guitar. And, in all honesty, I believe he was right. I am a better guitar player for playing those damn flat tops for 20 years. Probably why I only use a pick 40 percent of the time to this day. Just my two cents.
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Nov 30, 2007 8:49 a.m. DrumBob:
It's all in the heart and the fingers, not the guitar. I respect your opinion, but I think it's dead wrong. To call SRV's music crap is beyond comprehension. You could tell Buddy Guy to his face that his music is crap too because he plays a Strat. Don't think he'd take too well to that comment.
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Nov 30, 2007 9:03 a.m. Bernw:
Good guitar playing is good on an acoustic, a hollow body electric and a solid body electric. I have heard great guitar playing played on an unplugged solid too...
...and with Gretschadelphia mentioning Peter Green (which I totally agree with) I got the same wondrous feeling in the early Clapton days when he played a Tele (and of course his later Les Pauls, SG's et al).
Badams - you are welcome to your opinion - I just happen to think you are wrong.
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Nov 30, 2007 9:27 a.m. BuddyMercury:
yeah, I've changed my opinion, I'm with ratrod, i think they sound great when they're played well, but i don't wanna play one. So, no hatin', just coexisting. i think its just like painting or cars...yeah, they both have four wheels or were made with oil paints...but the similarities end pretty quick.
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Nov 30, 2007 10:35 a.m. GuitarFarm:
"You could tell Buddy Guy to his face that his music is crap too because he plays a Strat. Don't think he'd take too well to that comment."
I second that. I've had my picture taken with Buddy Guy and he is NOT a small man.
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Nov 30, 2007 10:54 a.m. SqwareKat:
SRV crap? Maybe on your planet.
Welcome to Earth. Down here, he's a widely respected player, and not just for what kind of guitar he played (or didn't play). If you're going to challenge the man's skills and artistic merits, you'd better have some serious credentials to back it up...
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Nov 30, 2007 11:44 a.m. cgs:
'If I never heard that crap SRV played again it would still be too soon.'
WTF?
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Nov 30, 2007 1:16 p.m. Pappy:
I love being called less of a player because I don't play my acoustic as often as my electric because at night I toss. I turn. I sweat. I fret (get it?) about how some guy out there in the world's opinion about me and my playing habits.
Seems like a downright confrontational thing to say. I'd dare call it troll-ish.
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Nov 30, 2007 1:22 p.m. The Shetland:
What can you do on an acoustic that you can't do on an electric?
I'm talking true acoustic, no electronics...I assume that's what you guys are talking about, right?
Honestly, I don't really know, but it does'nt seem like there is a lot. The strings tend to be alot heavier so bends are harder, there is no tremolo system, no way to switch pickups to instantly go from crunchy/twangy to fat/smooth, no way to modulate the sound (if you want to)...
I defintely think they are important to music and have their place, but it almost seems like a "purist" type standpoint to me
I am defintely not a purist, but if I have a choice I'll play an electric everytime...
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Nov 30, 2007 1:33 p.m. WishinforaFalcon:
Actually we would all be much better players if we spent the time practicing (acoustic or electric) that we did posting on this board.
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Nov 30, 2007 1:47 p.m. Richard Hudson:
Kinda stirred things up, didn't he?
Man, I can't go along with that stuff about SRV having no soul. To each his own, but for my taste, I've never heard anyone play the blues any better than Stevie Ray.
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Nov 30, 2007 2:05 p.m. bonedaddy:
Badams said: If I never heard that crap SRV played again it would still be too soon. I feel that a person isnt much of a guitar player if they dont use an acoustic about as often as an electric. I respect the opinions of those who oppose them. I just dont understand how a guitar player could feel that way.
Yeah,ok. I guess I don't understand if YOU are a guitar player, how YOU could feel that way. Personally, I think James Taylor and his acoustic guitar are emotionless and without soul, but I'd certainly not call it crap.
Badams said: Stretching strings isnt emotion. They have no place in blues music what so ever. They work fine with the half baked blues that Cream played(I dig creams music though) Their use in blues is what put it on its downward spiral.
So what does belong in blues, since your the self appointed ambASSador? You're telling me that 'stretching' strings isn't as relevant as maybe using a slide to reach up for another note. That's the only CRAP I see here. I think SRV got as much emotion, or more, with his bends than Elmore did with his slide. It's preposterous to say what belongs and what doesn't. It's art. You can think it's crap or doesn't belong, and that's a personal choice, but to presuppose that something doesn't belong. Yeah, so says you...
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Nov 30, 2007 2:11 p.m. cgs:
Put up or shut up Badams.
