Proteus said: Does Steve Morse get enough recognition for The Dregs and his Trio?No, he doesnt, and thats why I say: Steve Morse
your favorite under-rated rock guitarist
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Nov 15, 2008 12:32 p.m. Dr Nyl:
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Nov 15, 2008 12:39 p.m. marctrain57:
Steve Hunter's into to Sweet Jane on R'n'R Animal is one of my favorite guitar bits.
As to the Eagles I guess Proteus is saying he is not a member of their fan club. Still think that the guitar duel at the end of Hotel California (check out a live version from the '70's) was excellent.
Glad some of you agree on Rory Gallagher,
Check out Steve Hunter's gear:
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Nov 15, 2008 1:05 p.m. Steverb:
Andy Powell of Wishbone Ash (of course!). Who else would I put with this avatar (except maybe Ted Turner and Laurie Wisefield, also of that ilk).
I still dont understand why the Wishbone guys arent rated. Their early 70s stuff stands up there with anything else from that era.
And of course, the incomparable Richard Thompson, who as well as being utterly, stupendously unique as a guitarist is probably the best songwriter on the planet just now. You may have gathered that I rate him.
Re The Eagles. They were a good country rock band until Bernie Leadon left, then they became a tedious stadium rock band, and got even more tedious when Joe Walsh joined. Apparently they asked Richard Thompson to join them first! Wisely, he declined.
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Nov 15, 2008 1:09 p.m. Steverb:
Oh, and Nils Lofgren is hugely underrated. Seen him live three times; once with his band in late 70s, once solo in Leeds last year and once as a member of Crazy Horse. The best player of pinch harmonics anywhere. Cry Tough is a monster album. Pity about the Bruuuce connection; only blot on his copybook.
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Nov 15, 2008 1:28 p.m. Proteus:
Stevie! Long time no seehearfrom. I knew if I left the Wishbones off the list, it would pull you out. You'd have to come to their rescue.
Thought I'd leave them for you; we know they were magnificent on those albums!
Lots of coverage of Steve Hunter playing Gretschs in the WinterNAMM coverage, with soundclips.
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Nov 15, 2008 1:28 p.m. CnW:
I'm not really deep on Wishbone Ash material, but I love the playing on Argus! Especially Andy Powell's. You can hear an extra pinch of attitude in his playing. And I love the tones he got out of that flying V (and Orange...or HiWatt?) He said that he was really into that guitar---and you can tell.
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Nov 15, 2008 2:40 p.m. twangmeisternyc:
All these posts and not one George Thorogood?
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Nov 15, 2008 2:57 p.m. Whofan:
I know we're supposed to be 'outside the pantheon' here, but I have to say Pete is underated; especially as an acoustic player.
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Nov 15, 2008 3:24 p.m. Proteus:
Pete who?
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Nov 15, 2008 3:26 p.m. Proteus:
HUH HUH HUH!
Pete's a great acoustic player, and brilliant at arranging acoustic guitar into rock. Also as fine a compleat trio guitar player as rock has ever produced. It's more than rhythm, it's not noodly lead...it's essential MAIN guitar.
But ... he's pretty famous!
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Nov 15, 2008 4:15 p.m. Tux:
Jimbo; Seriously...Ronnie Wood? Okay, he's greatly improved over when I first saw him "on loan" with the Stones at MSG/NYC in June/1975...when he may as well have been playing a 3-string guitar, cuz he never needed E, A or D...ping! ping! ping!
His work on "Can't You Hear Me Knocking?" during the 2002 American tour was right on, tho. Not a bad job of filling in the big shoes of Mick Taylor. Ronnie's improved, no doubt.
Steverb; If you like Nils Lofgren on "Cry Tough", check out what we here call the "Fat Man" album. That's his first solo release, "Nils Lofgren" (1975). It was "Keith Don't Go" from that effort that hooked me. Many years later, Nils showed me the chords to that song in a central Massachusetts nightclub. Have talked guitars with him a few times. Very down-to-earth kinda guy.
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Nov 15, 2008 4:27 p.m. crowbone:
Woody has always been better in the Faces & with Rod than with the Stones IMHO.
I know that because of Mick Taylor.
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Nov 15, 2008 4:28 p.m. fauves:
Richard Thompson... duuuooo why didn't I say that first! he is fantastic. John Jorgenson as well. Got to see him live and talk a bit a few months ago. I was so impressed that I had to go out and get one of them gypsy jazzy guitary thingys. I know his new stuff aint rock but look at the hellcasters stuff!
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Nov 15, 2008 6:28 p.m. Otter:
Roy Buchanan apparently had a telecaster made of granite...
Wouldn't that make him the most underrated ROCK guitarist?
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Nov 15, 2008 6:45 p.m. MrMoonlight:
- Joe Walsh
- Mike Campbell
- John McFee (Doobie Brothers)
- Davey Johnstone (Elton John)
- Elliot Easton (yeah, he gets his props here, but in general, he's underrated)
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Nov 15, 2008 6:53 p.m. Whofan:
Ron Wood is great on 'Losing You' with Rod....
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Nov 16, 2008 9:15 a.m. ronji:
Robert Quine
Chris Bell
Nels Cline
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Nov 16, 2008 9:38 a.m. dubkitty:
Steverb, I totally agree with you about the Eagles, who i think of as a country-rock band that rose to their level of incompetence as an arena-rock band. not to mention a band that ripped off Poco right down to the "ooo-oo-oo" backing vocals.
the only reason i didn't mention RT is because at least among guitar players he's pretty well-known; in terms of the marketplace i'd place him at the top of the "under-rated" list. i've learned a ton of stuff off of him. it's hilarious to think of the Eagles trying to hire RT in 1975, just as he was going into his giving up music and living in the Muslim commune period. "would you like to be part of a huge fake pop group?" "like hell."
it's kind of a shame that Nils wound up more or less playing the Joe Walsh role in the E Street Band...in both cases their band role tends to obscure the more interesting aspects of their playing.
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Nov 16, 2008 9:39 a.m. Jet-Head:
Great lists, guys. I especially liked the inclusions of David Lindley, Bruce Cockburn, Steve Morse, Steve Howe & Richard Thompson.
As underrated let me add Terry Kath (Chicago), Kim Simmonds (Savoy Brown), Ry Cooder (famous in niche circles, I guess), Paul Simon (Yeah I know. Still a helluva guitarist), Robert Fripp and Johnny Winter. (Known for blues but one who still rocks)
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Nov 16, 2008 9:39 a.m. pbernotas:
Wow...so many
Steve Hunter (midwest boy, Pro)
Bruce Cockburn (nice rhythm)
Ernie Isley (crazy thought, huh?)
Just a couple that come to mind. Lots of styles and players out there very underrated
IMHO Pat@Kokomo
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Nov 16, 2008 9:45 a.m. Bernw:
Pat Benatars husband
Him from Rush
The guy in the Hampsters
and Eddie Williams from Brew
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Nov 16, 2008 10:12 a.m. dubkitty:
Ernie Isley, not crazy at all. and Eddie Hazel and, i think his name was Michael Hampton? from P-Funk. don't try to tell me P-Funk isn't rock and roll, either, when the Talking Heads swallowed them whole.
Davey Johnstone, yes...i thought the whole Elton John band back then was terribly underrated, and once those guys left he never really regained his original sound.
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Nov 16, 2008 10:17 a.m. MR TROUBLE:
Steverb said: Pity about the Bruuuce connection; only blot on his copybook.
I have inside information...Nils enjoys his connection with Bruce and the greatest band on the planet right now and would probably beg to differ with you.
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Nov 16, 2008 3:32 p.m. Tux:
MR TROUBLE said: Nils enjoys his connection with Bruce and the greatest band on the planet right now
No doubt; if for no other reason than the more lucrative paychecks. But, I get Steverb's point on the E Street thing stifling Nils' solo work. Lofgren was one helluva solo artist in his own right, however under appreciated by the masses in the '70s. Will now be forever known as the guy who stepped in for Miami Steve Van Zandt, when SVZ & Bruce had a stepping out. Too talented & versatile to dump after the kiss-and-makeup, tho.
As for Ronnie Wood...he's one heckuva sketch & paint artist.
Just kidding. Shouldn't dump on ol' Ron. Besides, who can top Mike Myers with his SNL take offs of him, anyway? I agree, Ron did sound better behind Rod Stewart with The Faces. Ronnie's solo work isn't all that bad, either. He resurrected Dylan's "Seven Days", and his own "Breathe On Me" (wit Keef) is a great piece. I understand he plays several instruments, as well.
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Nov 16, 2008 3:50 p.m. Steverb:
Yeah, I know Mr T. Its clear that Nils enjoys the Bruce connection and there is no denying that the E Street Band is class. Its just that Bruce leaves me completely cold. I dont know why; I recognise that he is one of the good guys and Ive tried to like his music, I really have, but it just does nothing for me whatsoever (unlike your avatar, which is ace).
Dubkitty, the first volume of the long awaited official Richard T songbook is apparently nearing readiness for sale (transcribed by Maartin Alcock of Fairport fame). This will either lead me onward to new heights of musicianship or (more likely) lead to much wailing, gnashing of teeth and smashing of guitars in frustration. We shall see.
Can I also add a vote for Tony (TS) McPhee of The Groundhogs in the underrated guitarist stakes. I dont know if The Groundhogs made any waves Stateside but Split is a fantastic piece of work (admittedly in a sub Hendrix genre but none the worse for that).
