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Aug 23, 2008 7:10 p.m. Bear:

Daddy-O, as my platform stated, since they will be no longer able to be on the dole, most illegals should choose to leave of their own volition. We will even provide buses at no charge with a cold lunch. After all, we're not heartless. Also, since "Press 1 for English" will be instantly revoked, communication will become much more difficult for them making a return to their homelands even more attractive.

Again, if you recall. the expense of building and maintaining a fence will be unnecessary since armed former veterans, for 6 month tours, will be stationed at the border with strict orders not to shoot anyone moving south. Just to clarify that I am in no way bigoted towards the fine people from Mexico; should an influx of illegal Canadians becomes a problem, troops will also be stationed along the northern border with instructions not to shoot anyone moving north.

Also, all illegal immigrants in our correctional system will be immediately returned to the officials of their respective countries. Whether or not their homelands wish to reincarcerate them is irrelevant since they will no longer be our responsibility physically or financially so who cares what happens to them? If they try to come back here, they will be shot. Either way, problem solved.

I hope that clears up your concerns over illegal immigration and remember a vote for Bear is a vote the other A-Holes won't get!

EDIT: Please bear in mind that I am not against immigration by any means, as long as it is done legally. America has long been and should remain a melting pot of cultures. My own father immigrated here from Macedonia in 1937... LEGALLY. When he was eligible, he became a U.S. citizen. He did it the right way, and that is all I would expect of any immigrant from any country.

I am also not against welfare as many people need it. It would remain intact. However to receive your weekly check all you need is a passing grade from the FREE schooling we will provide you to get you back into the workplace and a clean urinalysis report. If you don't want to go to school to better yourself and would prefer to sit at home watching Jerry Springer while blowing a doob, we ain't payin' for it!
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Aug 24, 2008 2:01 a.m. F107plus5:

Hi Bear!

Ah; Immigration! My dad also immigrated to the US, he got here with his Mom and Dad in 1911. He was not well received by the locals. They figured he would take some of the jobs that they didn't want. Yeah; the mine was recruiting Italians and Irish for coal mine duties. Rumor had it that the Irish and Italians were selected because they were both Catholic and the mine had influence in the local Church. He also became a legal citizen as soon as practical.

Oh wow! You've got the more serious fibrillation. That's the nasty one! Mine's the simpler and safer ventricular type. I first got it in about '82. It's completely under control along with the CHF as long as I take my meds with some amount of regularity.

...thanks for the vote up! I'd vote you up too, but I already did!

Anyway; guitar noodling should be a medical deduction, so just take your meds on time, see your Doctor as often as the budget allows, and keep on playing! Please. We really; really, like having you around!

Our Daughter used to visit her kids at Christmas and on their birthdays, but that has pretty much gone away with the rising gas and and food and utilities prices. The kids are old enough now to call her on the phone fairly often. She used to call them occasionally, but she had to drop long distance when the costs of everything else went up. Four kids and four fathers(yeah; I know)and only one of them makes any attempt at contact. Bummer. And not a one of them has an income anywhere near capable of helping. The first one got in just a bit of trouble with the law when he was real young, but it was enough that no serious employer will touch him. Amazing how little stuff that used to rate no more than a slap on the wrist is now a jailable offense with life changing consequences! Hardly more serious than the gal in Wisconsin who went to the pokey for overdue Library Books! How nice it is to live in a country with more than 1% of its' population behind bars!! Anyway; another father lost his job due to it being exported and is now grossly underemployed and being held hostage by rent and gas and utility bills. One fella just disappeared off the face of the Earth, and the last one lost his drivers license and his job when is ex-wife up in New York complained about back child support. Yup; lets hear it for Government and Business practices!

We had our 401k split between safe stuff and stocks, but when we noticed things getting shaky on Wall Street, we got out of the market.

Wall Street; yeah, that's right, I remember now. That's in the same city where the seat of the US Government is really located! Yup; seems more votes are cast there than in most every other precinct in the country! Combined!

I also managed to work for a couple of very successful companies who had pensions, so we're not doing too badly at the moment. The extra four members in the household weren't planned on when we developed our retirement plans, and we sure didn't expect that "world trade" would wipe out all the dams and levies along the economic river we all live along.

Speaking of "World Trade"; I understand that lots of folks were having a hard time looking at the World Trade Center as a symbol that should necessarily be missed. The loss of "innocent" lives was terribly unfortunate, but the loss of the "guilty" parties who stand behind the concept of "World Trade" so poorly conceived and implemented ain't such a bad thing to some.

I think American companies opening plants in new developing markets is a great thing! It gives their populations new jobs and the ability to more fully enter the modern era. Fabulous, and it even gives the American corporations a new source of income and profits! But fer cryin' out loud; don't shut down our domestic manufacturing and import the off-shore products just to raise the bottom line! And if I find out that all the clean air laws and employee safety laws that have been implemented over the years have been written into law just so the industries could have a good "reason" to claim that manufacturing here in the US was just too expensive and had to be moved offshore just "for survival" purposes. Naw; they wouldn't do that, would they? And American business interests wouldn't be "inviting" workers with lower earnings expectations into the country just to keep the cheap labor pool full to overflowing, would they?

Naw; they wouldn't do that. It wouldn't be ethical.
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Aug 24, 2008 10:05 a.m. Bear:
F107plus5, thank you for the very kind words and the insightful information. I'd like to add this as additional food for thought.

How many zeros in a billion?

This is too true to be funny.

The next time you hear a politician use the word 'billion' in a casual manner, think about whether you want the 'politicians' spending YOUR tax money.

A billion is a difficult number to comprehend, but one advertising agency did a good job of putting that figure into some perspective in one of it's releases.
1. A billion seconds ago it was 1959.
2. A billion minutes ago Jesus was alive.
3. A billion hours ago our ancestors were living in the Stone Age.
4. A billion days ago no-one walked on the earth on two feet.
5. A billion dollars ago was only 8 hours and 20 minutes,at the rate our government is spending it.
While this thought is still fresh in our brain... let's take a look at New Orleans ... It's amazing what you can learn with some simple division. Louisiana Senator, Mary Landrieu (D)is presently asking Congress for 250 BILLION DOLLARS to rebuild New Orleans. Interesting number... what does it mean?
1. Well... if you are one of the 484,674 residents of New Orleans (every man, woman, and child) you each get $516,528.
2. Or... if you have one of the 188,251 homes in New Orleans, your home gets $1,329,787.
3. Or... if you are a family of four... your family gets $2,066,012.
Washington, D. C < HELLO! > Are all your calculators broken?
- Accounts Receivable Tax
- Building Permit Tax
- CDL License Tax
- Cigarette Tax
- Corporate Income Tax
- Dog License Tax
- Federal Income Tax
- Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
- Fishing License Tax
- Food License Tax
- Fuel Permit Tax
- Gasoline Tax
- Hunting License Tax
- Inheritance Tax
- Inventory Tax
- IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)
- IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
- Liquor Tax
- Luxury Tax
- Marriage License Tax
- Medicare Tax
- Property Tax
- Real Estate Tax
- Service charge taxes
- Social Security Tax
- Road Usage Tax (Truckers)
- Sales Taxes
- Recreational Vehicle Tax
- School Tax
- State Income Tax
- State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
- Telephone Federal Excise Tax
- Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
- Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Tax
- Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
- Telephone Recurring and Non- recurring Charges Tax
- Telephone State and Local Tax
- Telephone Usage Charge
- Utility Tax
- Vehicle License Registration Tax
- Vehicle Sales Tax
- Watercraft Registration Tax
- Well Permit Tax
- Workers Compensation Tax
STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?

Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago... and our nation was the most prosperous in the world.

We had absolutely no national debt... We had the largest middle class in the world... and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED?

Can you spell 'politicians'! And I still have to press '1' for English. I hope this goes around the USA at least 100 times, Maybe we'll wake up, before it's too late!
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Aug 24, 2008 10:51 a.m. cyclopssam:

you forgot the tariffs we no longer collect(Nafta) .. jeff gannon's america bringing new meaning to "putting your ass on the line" , or putting your money where yer mouth is(Something like that) remember kiddies BREAD AND CIRCUS!

don't even wanna start on 401k's 40,000$ is a lot of money grr......!!

may better fourtunes come yer way bear
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Aug 24, 2008 11:04 a.m. Bear:

Oh, I'm sure there are a lot of other taxes and tariffs that I missed. I really don't mind bending over backwards for my beloved country, however I do mind my politicians demanding I bend over forwards!